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I registered at the Verbalplanet website. I want to improve my English. You can choose tutors there. My tutor was ma'am Nada. She was really friendly and patient. We practiced vocabulary. I really like the session. The website is not very expensive. The first lesson is free which is great. I will definitely keep going to classes and I recommend Verbalplanet for people who want to learn language from their homes.
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When should I pick Russian to German when fluent in EN and native CZ? Any RU audio drill to recommend?By Roumbourague
Hello everybody! I am completely new here and came for an advice. Lets sum it up briefly:
Im 29, native Czech Fluent in English (complete competence, daily usage of spoken/written). No reason to worry about losing it Learning German since 3/2013, four years now, from an absolute zero. I am far away from fluency but basically no more materials can offer anything worth the time spent to me. Therefore I read books as much as I can and am having conversations 3 times a week (2x1 hour one on one, and 1.5 hour in a group of three) in order to bring it to a satisfactory (fluent) lever until the end of the year and then keep fostering it till I die as I am going to need it in 90% of the jobs that I can ever get. My other motivation is just to be able to sing a song along, read a book as it was written, chat with locals without the necessity of using a foreign language (for them). I, believe me or not, consider it being a nice sounding, even a poetic language I intend to start learning Russian, just dont know if it is not too soon. It should actually be easy to me as it is a Slavic language, moreover presumably a simpler one and with lots of same/similar/familiar words. My motivation, besides money it could bring me, is more personal and less professional than in case of German Btw I have come across a tip to use materials made in the second language in order to learn a third one. Aside using English (and Czech) stuff I therefore consider purchasing some Russisch Kurs. Is there anything you could recommend?
In order to give you a bit broader picture of what works to me or not, let me briefly recap my German learning experience (hope it is not forbidden to talk about materials):
I am an auditive kind of person. I live in a world of sounds, noises, tones, melodies. One of hobbies is recognizing actors by ther voices, I was quite good at recognizing music before Shazam came. Therefore I prefer audiomaterials Started with Michel Thomas. Purely brilliant. Two people who, as well as you, never ever studied the language before, making the same mistakes as you do and Michel, with his wonderful personality, kindly correcting them. Awesomely authentic. Great start. The first material everybody should grab when new to a language Pimsleur was, on the contrary, very cold, too time consuming assuming the little benefit it brings and the translations too vague (Guten Tag translated as Hello etc). Boring, long, made for simple minded crowds, in my point of view Paul Noble is similar to Michel Thomas. Not that profound, not that authentic but still nice Two Czech audioschools follow: 2000 nejpoužívanějších německcých slov - 2k most frequent German words, which I dont understand why is quite overlooked. It contains all these words in complete sentences (thus even a significant portion of the grammar) accompanied with a transcription. The best I came across so far (when used in a CZ>DE order), learned it by heart word by word from my mp3 player, gradually cutting away these that I already knew, going back from time to time to revice Němčina do ucha - German to your ear - similar one, hard drill as well, this time giving phrases sorted by certain grammar phenomenons (and besides that the vocabulary). Learned by heart as well. In some ways these two overlap, off course. Some little selection was necessary I have surprisingly not found anything like these two in English! Glossika - Vague translations, some sentences sound unnatural even to an intermediate student Duolinguo - I was already farther in this point. Finished it just because it is been glorified everywhere. Vague translations, creates an illusion of competence at beginners, quite a silly concept to my taste. I prefer serious and solid learning FSI languages - again, I was already much farther and the time to sort out sentences that I did any mistake in was not worth the questionable benefit. Overall a very nice one DLI languages - the same I did not enjoy Rosetta Stone very much Then I purchased some audiobooks and kept listening to them in 10 minute segments at work without really paying any attention until I was basically able to repeat some of the phrases the same way it works with pop songs I have read some 5 books so far, using this touch-dictionary in my Kindle. Still up to 5 words that I have to look up on every page
So for learning this Russian I am considering:
Michel Tomas (although not with him himself this time, unfortunately) Pimsleur (bad is still better than nothing, especially when you can borrow it from a library for almost nothing) The two Czech that I have mentioned above FSI/DLI if necessary Any more tips? I am considering ordering these two: http://www.dnf-verlag.de/shop/sprache/russisch/audiotrainer-1000-woerter-russisch-a1/ http://www.dnf-verlag.de/shop/sprache/russisch/audiotrainer-1000-woerter-russisch-a2/ or this one https://www.amazon.de/Audiotrainer-Russisch-Basiswortschatz-2-Audio-CDs/dp/3867152047 So my two questions - for these not having the patience to read it through - when should I pick Russian to German as a native Czech with fluent English and are there any nice audiomaterials (both English and German) that you could recommend based on my preferences?
Thanks a lot!