

{"id":22130,"date":"2023-01-26T23:50:57","date_gmt":"2023-01-26T23:50:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/?p=22130"},"modified":"2023-01-26T23:51:22","modified_gmt":"2023-01-26T23:51:22","slug":"commas-with-quotes-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/commas-with-quotes-rules\/","title":{"rendered":"Commas with Quotes \u2014 All You Need to Know"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Simple as it may seem, dealing with the rules that govern the use of punctuation can be as stressful and taxing as mountain climbing in the dark.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mountain climbing is already a difficult adventure in the daytime. How much more if it is done at night?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unexpected twists and turns and sudden changes in the terrain are just a few surprises that can turn you off the track.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is how it goes when using commas with quotes &ndash; a lot could go wrong.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But don&rsquo;t worry. This study will take you beyond the next hill. Ready now? Let&rsquo;s get it on.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>&nbsp;<\/h1>\n<h1><b>When do we need to use commas with quotes?<\/b><\/h1>\n<p><strong>Commas are always used with quotes when they come with reporting clauses such as &ldquo;he said&rdquo; and &ldquo;she said.&rdquo; A reporting clause that comes before the quote calls for a comma before the opening quotation mark. In other cases, the comma goes inside the quote in American English and outside in British.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b>Commas and quoted statements<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A comma is defined as a punctuation mark used especially to separate items within a sentence.&nbsp; We might as well call it a separation marker.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yet, this tiny mark had caused a lot of confusion and bewilderment among teachers and students ever since it had been used in the 1500s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Have you heard about the ultimate <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/comma-cheat-sheet\/\"><b>comma cheat sheet<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> that should make your life less nerve-racking?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This one-stop guide lays out the fundamentals of comma usage that can help you write more like a pro and less like an amateur.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Other teachers taught their students to use a comma whenever a pause is needed when they speak.&nbsp; Very specific, aren&rsquo;t they?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To make things easier to digest, today&rsquo;s post focuses only on the use of commas with quoted statements.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A quote or quotation is that part of a sentence that is introduced by a pair of speech marks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Most of the time, that quote can be a passage being referred to or adduced. Quotation marks are used to show clarity and emphasis.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A quoted speech also usually comes with a reporting or attributive clause, which can appear before or after the quoted remark.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The reporting clause helps in clarifying the source of the information being quoted, such as &ldquo;Cindy said&rdquo; or &ldquo;said Mark.&rdquo;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The position of the comma in a quoted sentence almost always presents a problem even though quotation marks have been in use since the 1600s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Quotation marks are often used to present that something is spoken by another person. That piece of information is also called direct speech in English.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In other words, a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/stlcc.edu\/student-support\/academic-success-and-tutoring\/writing-center\/writing-resources\/reported-speech-and-direct-speech.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><b>direct speech<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> that is marked by quotation marks is recorded word for word.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At other times, writers also use quotation marks to emphasize a word or phrase to display sarcasm or irony.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Referred words, such as those that are being given some definition, may also be enclosed with quotation marks.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>&nbsp;<\/h1>\n<h2><b>When and where commas go with quotes<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Deciding where to exactly place commas with quotes largely depends on language conventions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While the comma goes inside the quoted speech in American English, the comma goes outside for British English users.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><b>Commas go inside quotes (American English)<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the realm of American English, conventions show that a comma must always be used inside quotation marks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/comma-rules\/\"><b>comma rule<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is followed by several style guides like the Associated Press, the Chicago Manual of Style, and the Modern Language Association.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Example 1:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct AmE) &ldquo;I&rsquo;ll get along with you later,&rdquo; said Amanda.<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect AmE) &ldquo;I&rsquo;ll get along with you later&rdquo;, said Amanda.<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<br>\n<strong>Example 2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct AmE) &ldquo;Cheese is so good; I can have it all day,&rdquo; Cindy said.<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect AmE) &ldquo;Cheese is so good; I can have it all day&rdquo;, Cindy said.<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Meanwhile, the comma always goes immediately after the reporting clause when it comes before the direct speech.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This rule is consistent in both American and British Englishes. By the way, the first letter of the quoted remark&rsquo;s first word should be in upper case.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Example 1:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct AmE) Jim asked, &ldquo;Who took the chocolates?&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect AmE) Jim asked &ldquo;, Who took the chocolates?&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<br>\n<strong>Example 2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct AmE) <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Someone shouted, &ldquo;Look down below!&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect AmE) <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Someone shouted &ldquo;, Look down below!&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Whenever the quoted speech is cut off midway, the comma also goes inside the quote, particularly in the first half of the quoted remark.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Take note that the second half of the quoted speech should start with a lowercase because it simply continues the first remark.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Example 1:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct AmE) &ldquo;Loud noise,&rdquo; Blake said, &ldquo;already annoys me.&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect AmE) &ldquo;Loud noise&rdquo;, Blake said, &ldquo;already annoys me.&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<br>\n<strong>Example 2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct AmE)&nbsp; &ldquo;Put the briefcase,&rdquo;&nbsp; he said, &ldquo; inside the car.&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect AmE)&nbsp; &ldquo;Put the briefcase&rdquo;,&nbsp; he said, &ldquo; inside the car.&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Take note, though, that the comma goes outside the opening quotation mark in the second half of the quote in both American and British Englishes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In other words, the second comma goes right after the reporting clause &ldquo;Blake said&rdquo; and not right before &ldquo;already.&rdquo;<\/span><\/p>\n<h2>&nbsp;<\/h2>\n<h3><b>Commas go outside quotes (British English)<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In England and the UK, however, it is a bit trickier because the rule being followed is dependent on some factors.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a rule of thumb, commas are placed outside quotation marks in British English, as well as periods or full stops.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This means that <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/comma-after-a-quotation\/\"><b>the comma goes after the quotation<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> when it comes before the reporting clause.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Example 1:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct BrE) &ldquo;This way&rdquo;, Anna whispered.<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect BrE) &ldquo;This way,&rdquo; Anna whispered.<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<br>\n<strong>Example 2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct BrE) &ldquo;Too far&rdquo;, Ronnie said.<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect BrE) &ldquo;Too far,&rdquo; Ronnie said.<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Like in American English, the comma also goes right after the reporting clause and not after the opening quotation mark in an inverted structure.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Remember to capitalize the first letter of the first word in the quoted speech as it is considered a separate idea.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Example 1:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct BrE) Glen silently thought, &ldquo;Who could have done this?&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect BrE) Glen silently thought &ldquo;, Who could have done this?&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Example 2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct BrE) The detective said, &ldquo;I am sure who the perpetrator is.&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect BrE) The detective said &ldquo;, I am sure who the perpetrator is.&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Whenever the quoted speech is cut off midway, the comma goes outside the closing quotation mark in the first half of the speech for British English users.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The first letter in the second half of the quote, this time, should be written in lowercase because it is just a continuation of the first remark.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Example 1:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct BrE) &ldquo;That child&rdquo;, Andrew said, &ldquo;will have a bright future.&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect BrE) &ldquo;That child,&rdquo; Andrew said, &ldquo;will have a bright future.&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<br>\n<strong>Example 2:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(correct BrE) &ldquo;Please&rdquo;, he begged, &ldquo;can&rsquo;t we just talk about it?&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(incorrect BrE) &ldquo;Please,&rdquo; he begged, &ldquo;can&rsquo;t we just talk about it?&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Again, bear in mind that the comma goes right after the reporting clause &ldquo;Andrew said,&rdquo; which is outside the opening quotation mark in the latter part of the speech.<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b>When no commas are needed with quotes<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/unnecessary-commas\/\"><b>Unnecessary commas<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> derail readers from the point that the writer wants to make. This just means that using commas needs a lot of effort and attention.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The general rule is, if a quoted material or dialogue is included, then a comma must be used unless it flows seamlessly into the sentence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In other words, the commas should be dropped if and when the quoted words or phrases can be treated as part of the sentence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This technique is often done to suggest sarcasm, irony, or any form of emphasis or clarity in writing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Examples:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The newly-appointed mayor said that &ldquo;there will no gun ban&rdquo; during this election period.<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He also said that &ldquo;progress and development shall continue.&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She said that &ldquo;she would be a couple of minutes late today&rdquo; to her class.<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The sentences in these cases will still be considered syntactically correct even without the quotation marks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In case &ldquo;syntax&rdquo; is not your cup of tea, our previous post covering an all-in-one <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/syntax\/\"><b>beginner&rsquo;s guide to syntax<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> might be of help.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And by the way, there is a significant <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/linguaholic.com\/linguablog\/difference-between-grammar-and-syntax\/\"><b>difference between grammar and syntax<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in the world of language studies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While &ldquo;grammar&rdquo; is an all-encompassing term, &ldquo;syntax&rdquo; is a more specific branch that deals with word order and sentence structure.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Figuring this out in more detail should get rid of many confusing terms and concepts that would also improve punctuation usage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The quotation marks used in the last few examples are just added to show that the remark was a direct quote.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To make things easier, more often than not, the quoted remark that is syntactically part of the sentence will be preceded by the conjunction &ldquo;that.&rdquo;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In other cases, when the quoted material does not fit seamlessly into the sentence, then a comma must be used before opening quotation marks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Examples:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-box-grey\">\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The waitress called out, &ldquo;Is there anything more that you want?&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The doctor asked the patient, &ldquo;Are you alright?&rdquo;<\/span><br>\n&nbsp;<br>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mother yelled at me cheerfully, &ldquo;Are you coming back soon?&rdquo;<\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b>Frequently Asked Questions in &ldquo;Commas with Quotes&rdquo;<\/b><\/h2>\n<h2>&nbsp;<\/h2>\n<h2><b>When should we use a comma after a quote?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A comma is used after a quote when it is followed by a reporting clause. The comma goes before the closing quotation mark in American English, while it goes after it in British English.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b>When should we use a comma before a quote?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A comma is used before a quote when the reporting or introductory clause comes before it. The comma always comes before the opening quotation mark for both American and British Englishes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><b>Does the comma go outside or inside quotes?<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For American English users, the comma goes inside the quoted speech, word, or phrase. For British English users, the comma goes outside the quoted speech.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>&nbsp;<\/h1>\n<h1><b>Conclusion<\/b><\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Written conventions that were invented and developed through time were designed so to make texts readable and teachable, as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Despite this, no absolute monarch has the sole authority to govern how a certain language needs to be used. Not even in English.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So it is natural to see differences and similarities in the rules between British and American English.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We only have to familiarize ourselves with these rules and live in peace among them.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Simple as it may seem, dealing with the rules that govern the use of punctuation can be as stressful and taxing as mountain climbing in the dark. 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