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    Trellum reacted to anna3101 in Is no one here interested in dutch?   
    Well, my Dutch is not that good, so I probably won't be of much help to you but if you need some kind of enthusiastic person that wants to know more about Dutch, then you've found one My spoken Dutch is probably around A1. I've never had any practice and I can't make correct sentences. I'm a bit better at reading, probably around A2-B1, mostly because of the similarities between Dutch and German.
    Actually, I've started to learn Dutch a long, long time ago because I fancied a guy from the Netherlands The fascination quickly went away but my love for the language stayed, so even if I sometimes do not do anything with my Dutch for months on end, I always end up coming back to it simply because I really like it.
    My main problem is, well, exactly what you've mentioned in your post:
    Dutch is not popular here in Poland. The common reaction to someone trying to learn it "Well, what for?". And that's a problem for me because in order to make any progress I need to have some kind of "learning  buddy" I'm a very lazy person, and left to my own devices, I'd probably stay day after day in bed and do nothing. This is why I always rely on "external" motivators. I'm very lucky to have people with whom I can study (or at least, who can control me ) when it comes to my English, French and Italian. I'm hoping to find someone for Spanish soon but I know I have a zero chance of doing the same for Dutch. Which is a pity
    And yes, my partner is Polish and what can I say? He's the best man in the whole universe And he's also the reason why I'm so often complemented on my Polish. He always corrects my mistakes but in a very friendly way and talking to him has been the best language course ever
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    Trellum got a reaction from anna3101 in Teacher influence   
    Well, this has nothing to do with languages.... but I will share it anyway, because I believe it will illustrate my point well.  Back when I was a third grader I had a teacher that thought the way to ''help'' his students with attention issues was to embarrass them in front the class.  It was much worse when he taught math, as a result I started really loathing the math class and going to school in general.  Even well into my adult years I loathed math and linked to feelings of fear and even panic, because my failures back in 3rd grade were magnified by that awful teacher. 
    It wasn't until a few years ago when I found a good tutor to help me pass some exams (needed math tutoring) that I stopped fearing math   He noticed I was terrified to make mistakes, but thanks to him I started to like math again and I no longer feel panic when I have to solve an equation or something like that.  
    So yes, having a good teacher (and not a bully who pretends to be a teacher just like the one i had to endure) can make a huge difference.  
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    Trellum got a reaction from anna3101 in Dutchpod101.com   
    Oh I also like physical books, but I haven't managed to find a good one to learn dutch.  Mind telling me the name of the course you are using?  The ''Naar Nederland'' course I bought from the Dutch gov is useless, it helped me get to level A1, but that's it.   That course is terrible, no grammar points at all and the same repetitive exercises at the end of each lesson.  Do you know of any good course filled with several examples for each grammar point?   I'm in dire need of one of those, so far I'm using the STAP 1 book I got for christmas. 
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    Trellum got a reaction from Chris_A in Teacher influence   
    Well, this has nothing to do with languages.... but I will share it anyway, because I believe it will illustrate my point well.  Back when I was a third grader I had a teacher that thought the way to ''help'' his students with attention issues was to embarrass them in front the class.  It was much worse when he taught math, as a result I started really loathing the math class and going to school in general.  Even well into my adult years I loathed math and linked to feelings of fear and even panic, because my failures back in 3rd grade were magnified by that awful teacher. 
    It wasn't until a few years ago when I found a good tutor to help me pass some exams (needed math tutoring) that I stopped fearing math   He noticed I was terrified to make mistakes, but thanks to him I started to like math again and I no longer feel panic when I have to solve an equation or something like that.  
    So yes, having a good teacher (and not a bully who pretends to be a teacher just like the one i had to endure) can make a huge difference.  
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    Trellum got a reaction from loulou in Writing down song's lyrics   
    Music I believe was the one thing that awoke my interest in languages, to be more exact German. Back then I was so young and naive, and I thought German was so cool.  Mostly because I was very interested to find out the meaning of several Rammstein songs.  So I started to write down some words, and looked them up in a german-spanish dictionary I bought specially for that.  Needless to say I didn't get too far with it, but I believe this was my first linguistic encounter. Back then I used to see language learning as something almost magical. 
     
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    Trellum got a reaction from czarina84 in Help with A Song   
    Oh my bad, I sometimes tend to complicate things a bit and don't realize it, until I get feedback from others (I've a neurological issue).  Sorry, I was trying to say they are both the same when it comes to music styles    And don't worry, I totally get you, my sister in law has the same problem!
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    Trellum got a reaction from czarina84 in Help with A Song   
    ''Balada'' simply means ''song'', most of the time we use that word for slower songs, like for example love ones.  Some people like to say ''balada'' instead of ''canción'' because they think it sounds more classy.  As for the latter, not sure that means anything to be honest, most likely it's a game with words some artists like to use to make their songs stand out.
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    Trellum got a reaction from czarina84 in How to learn multiple languages of the same dialect?   
    Eh, the title of your post is kinda odd!  You mean dialects of different languages?  If so, well, just studying both simultaneously do, but it varies from dialect from dialect. For me it would be easier to learn catalan than learning let's say sorani or kumanji! I think it's really about learning the main language first, then moving onto the second one.
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    Trellum got a reaction from Wanda Kaishin in Do you think there is a bad/stupid reason to learn a language?   
    The OP's example made me laugh so badly!  LOL, I actually had a friend who learn English just to understand the porn he watched, lol.  Yup, he confessed that to us once when he was drunk.  Oh yeah, that guy said way too many things to us when he was drunk, things I wish he had never said to us, lol.  Oh, if i could only forget those things  :frozen:

    To be honest with you, I'm not sure there is a dumb or bad reason to learn a language, as long as your passion and interest for the language you are learning is completely legitimate. Because let's be honest; leaning a new language requires effort and interest!  If you don't have that, then there is a huge chance you won't get too far, no matter how much external pressure you are getting.
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    Trellum got a reaction from anna3101 in When do you consider yourself to be "done"?   
    Never.  When you start  learning language you can't just stop learning it and using it... odds are everyday (if you live in the country where the language you learnt is spoken you will learn something new nearly everyday the first few years. 

    For me learning a new language is like losing weigh; once you lose the weight you intended to lose you can't just go back and eat everything you like!  You need to keep watching what you eat in order to keep that weight off.  Same with a language; you need to practice and use it as often as you can in order to keep the knowledge fresh in you mind.
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    Trellum got a reaction from czarina84 in understanding spanish texts   
    Supposedly  is a kiss sound.  The way people write it varies greatly from country to country.  Some write ''muack'' some write ''muaaaaaaa'' or ''mwaaaaa''. So she is basically sending you kisses   I hope you do reciprocate them
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    Trellum got a reaction from Elimination in Le/Les -> Se   
    Some phrases you might want to check out:

    Les dije a ellos que tenían que visitar a su abuela.  In this case ''Les'' is used to refer to several people, the person saying is either giving some explanation to someone or nagging them   ''Le'' is used for only one person as in:  Yo le dije a ella que tenia que irse''. In this case the person  is telling another person something he or she said to someone else.

    Se les fue el avión!  (A ellos). Often used when you are just an observer,  or want to  talk about something that took place in the past. Those are the most common uses of ''se''.
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    Trellum got a reaction from anna3101 in Cool web site for people interested in learning Dutch and other languages   
    Hello everyone!  I've found another cool web site, this one I found it thanks to a friend of mine who is also studying dutch and sent it to me just the other day.  The name of the web site is ''Internet Polyglot''.  It's very cool, it offers games and free lessons.  Really worth trying if you are looking for dutch study materials   Here is the link: http://www.internetpolyglot.com/ipolyglot2/home?lang=en
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    Trellum got a reaction from 宇崎ちゃん in Why is Duolinguo better than other apps?   
    Thanks for the heads up, @Blaveloper   I tried their course in the beginning, I am so glad I didn't continue!  By the way, I also caught a lot mistakes in the Spanish course, I reported some of them, no idea if they tried to fix those or not.   LOL,  I laughed so hard when I read they told YOU  were wrong, YOU, the native dutch speaker o_O  I'm not liking Duolingo at all after this, I didn't like it already    But I won't be going back there anytime soon    
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    Trellum got a reaction from kurdapia in How do you find time to study a new language?   
    Then you are waaaaaaaay stronger than I am or ever be!  xD I am a very indulgent person, when I am done with work I personally love to indulge in some gaming!  Sometimes something as simple as ''Build-a-lot'' but sometimes I go a bit more complex, deeper and scarier and go for games like ''Amnesia''.  I admire those who are strong enough to study languages instead of playing or hanging out on Facebook.  I no longer use Facebook by the way, but I love gaming and checking out sites like the oatmeal...  kudos to you! 
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    Trellum got a reaction from Wanda Kaishin in Can you really learn a language in fifteen minutes?   
    Please read right below the top of the info graph, there states clearly those languages go from easy to hard for ENGLISH speakers.  Native English speakers. The info graph never generalized things that broadly.  Jesus, what's up with that fascination with trying to find error where there is none? or taking things too literally?  And no, this info graph is not supposed to be taken 100% seriously, obviously, it's just an estimation    Just read well before posting, isn't that hard, it aids in keeping a good discussion going, and keeping things cordial and flowing, not stagnant thanks to small details.  We are all adults and  at this point we should already know what estimations really mean. 
     
     
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    Trellum got a reaction from czarina84 in Moving From Understanding to Articulating   
    The best way to do that is practice, you need to start using your Spanish more! Luckily you don't have to go out and meet new people who speak Spanish, you can  meet a lot though different language exchange web sites and then talk to them on Skype. As simple as that, this is the approach I am taking with dutch and is working. You can also try watching more TV shows and learn more sentences by active listening.
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    Trellum reacted to anna3101 in How do you find time to study a new language?   
    Trellum, you've probably already used all  those nice tips and found lots of time to study Dutch, you should tell us what time-managing methods worked best for you
    I try to look up new words or phrases whenever I come across them at work or at home, listen to songs while walking and read something in a foreign language while commuting. I'd never be able to sacrifice sleep though - it's too precious. Besides, I find that whatever you learn just before you go to sleep stays in your head much better. I don't know why, there must be some kind of scientific explanation for that. So, whenever I need to learn something really quick, I repeat it before going to sleep.
    And the Internet! A great way to learn some new things while also having fun. Also helps to get a better idea of what's really going on in the world - it's amazing the difference you get when reading about the same event in different languages from different news sites
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    Trellum got a reaction from cpefley in Duolingo to add more languages!!!   
    I'm so excited, their Swedish language course is 99% complete!  They are also going to add other languages: Turkish, Hungarian, Polish, Russian and Romanian.  How I wish they added Hebrew to the list, it would be a dream come true, but I'm actually very happy to see Russian in that list   I'll surely go learn it there!

    Are you happy about the news? Is the language you want to learn in the list? What language would you like to be added to the list?
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    Trellum got a reaction from anna3101 in What's your biggest problem now that you are learning a new language?   
    Food or the thought indeed   Lol, it's so true!!  It feels so good to just do something ''mindless'' after a long day at work or school,  rather than doing something that requires mental effort and concentration  I'm so guilty of this! I tend to procrastinate a lot!   I will think about what you say... happiness is never easy. I do need to make an effort, after all this exam is very important and I don't want to let anyone down. Thanks for the food for the thought  
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    Trellum reacted to anna3101 in What's your biggest problem now that you are learning a new language?   
    The biggest obstacles are always inside ourselves I'm not an exception - I'm lazy by nature and it always takes effort for me to start doing anything, including things I enjoy, like languages. When you are back home, after a long day of work, it's so easier to do something mindless - as opposed to actually making some mental effort to learn new things. Sometimes I just let it go and play some stupid game on my phone. When there's a bit energy left, then I remind myself about some clever French man who said that "happiness is never easy" and do something more ambitious, like learning or reading a book on some complicated subject.
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    Trellum got a reaction from czarina84 in Klingon? (Ancient Post)   
    Well, technically I am sure some think of it as a real language, specially because there are some active speakers out there   Yes, this is not the first time I hear about this    I think it really depends who you ask this to, some people will tell you there is no way they could ever consider klingon a real language and others will say it technically is. Of course I am no hardcore linguist of any kind... just someone who enjoys learning languages for fun (excepting dutch, I never liked that one language, but here I am...)
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    Trellum reacted to 宇崎ちゃん in Omdat vs want   
    Technically, there is not much of a difference between "want" and "omdat".
    Both mean "because", but each one of them changes your grammar.
    For example:
    Ik ga naar het strand, want het is heel heet.
    Ik ga naar het strand, omdat het heel heet is.
    As you can see, "omdat" puts the verb to the end of the sentence, always.
    But "want" on the other hand doesn't.
    So for most foreigners, it's a good idea to go with "want", but that might sound unnatural over time.
    As for "er", that's a hard one to explain.
    It changes the meaning of a sentence a bit.
    For example:
    Ik ga aan. = I turn on. (not the sexual "turn on", more like a light switch)
    Ik ga er aan. = I'm finished. (as in, "I'm doomed" or "I'm gonna die")
    Another example when it involves "there":
    Er wonen in Nederland veel mensen. = There are a lot of people in the Netherlands.
    Daar wonen veel mensen. = A lot of people live there.
    Hope it helps.
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    Trellum reacted to 宇崎ちゃん in Online or offline?   
    I actually started using Memrise since Monday again.
    I used it many months earlier, but the vocab I was learning was so hard that I gave up.
    Now I'm learning grammar on Memrise instead, and now I like it much better that way.
    "Smeer" can have different meanings.
    The verb "smeren" means "to spread". Just think like spreading Nutella over your sandwich.
    The noun "smeer" is more like the yellow things here (warning: don't watch if you just ate): http://www.kno.nl/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Oor-uitspuiten-400x349.png
    "Laten prikken" literally means "to let them sting you" (verb), might be a (medical) injection or a bee sting, but seeing you used "laten" (to let (it happen)), I doubt it's the bee sting one.
    Edit:
    "Smeer" can also be used as a slang word: "SMEER JE WEG", which means "GET THE FUCK AWAY".
    But you shouldn't take too much attention on that one.
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    Trellum reacted to 宇崎ちゃん in What's special about your language ?   
    Sorry, I was on my phone when I last replied.
    I didn't see this one.
    Clearing it a bit up:
    1. "Wat" means "what", but it's also used for "some" or "something".
    Neem wat geld mee. → Take some money with you.
    Wil je wat eten? = Wil je iets eten? → Do you want something to eat?
    Note that I used different colours to mark a word-by-word translation.
    2. Ik heb je een tijd niet gezien. → I did not see you for a while.
    Note that the Dutch use many different verbs for what Anglophones would use "to do" or "to be".
    Like "Ik zit op school" → "I am at school", which literally means "I sit on the school".
    3. Houd daar rekening mee. → Keep that in mind.
    This one is not word-by-word translatable though.
    "Don't forget that" would be "Niet vergeten" or "Vergeet dat niet".
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