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    Trellum reacted to kmars in Moving From Understanding to Articulating   
    Indeed active listening is the key. Listening passively will get you nowhere. Your ears have to be alert and your brain has to be fired up. You have to make your mind remember stuff. Talking on Skype is also a very wonderful idea for Spanish interactions. However I am on the introvert side of life and I tend to be very careful and wary of people. I will have to brave up and look more into skyping.
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    Trellum reacted to Fegg in What's special about your language ?   
    Basically I allow myself to acquire it as naturally as I’m able to. Yes, I try to understand all grammar, that is basic because we need to find rules and patterns, but if Dutch is similar to German you know that for us, these languages imply also to think very different while talking, and that, I’ m afraid will take years. Understanding a text sometimes feels like doing a puzzle, sounds familiar?:) …ok, this verb belongs to this sentence…mmm and 20 words later, ops, wait a moment, it is actually saying the opposite since there is a negation…but wait, is she who likes him or he who likes her, and after 3 pronouns altogether one after the other where you don’t know who is who and for whom and because of what, oh oh, wait, there is a lost particle here, two letters that don’t mean anything…let’s see in the dictionary…mmm nothing, what is thatttttt??? and just before you are about to give up….oh!  wait, that actually belongs to the verb 35 words before that changes completely the meaning of the whole piece!! This is what it looks sometimes German to me, an indecipherable code with morphologic rules that seem to have been thought just to make us go mad. But all jokes aside, somehow I got to like this language more and more, it feels like kind of an architectural piece of art, I can imagine that someone who masters it, can express himself with such an accuracy and variety.
     
    I´m going 3 hours per day to German language lectures, play local radio one hour most of the days, even if I don´t get much, as a background helps my year. Also, force myself to deal with doctors and elemental burocracy (next step, dealing it on the phone:)) Make visual / coloured notes with gender of nouns. Talk often with someone that doesn´t know English and has the patience to adjust his speech to you, you learn so much from those key people. I also help here and there friends that have a lower level of German than I do, helps a lot too. But, just like you, shame on us that we do not practice with our partners...I mean language:))  
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    Trellum got a reaction from Fegg in What's special about your language ?   
    Oh my.... I WISH  we spoke dutch!!!  But we can't!!!  My dutch is hardly level A1, so we fall into the same trap.  Plus the main problem is that he is too lazy to correct me when needed, so we end up speaking English. But I know we should speak dutch, we always say we will, but we end up speaking English again.   I had no idea German had an odd word order as well!  What a nightmare!   I loathe dutch sentences with more than 2 verbs D:   What are you using to improve your German right now?  Maybe we can exchange some tips, since both languages are so similar  
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    Trellum reacted to Fegg in What's special about your language ?   
    Sounds nice though:)) I´m still A2 because I had a daughter soon after arriving here and the first year I couldn´t do much more but to take care of her. And yes, it is hard and the worst part for me is precisely that crazy sentence order they make with verbs at the end and so on, I didn´t know Dutch was the same, but it makes sense somehow. My fault is that I speak with my husband in English and not in German, but we can´t help it. Does it happen the same to you, or you speak Dutch with him?
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    Trellum got a reaction from Fegg in What's special about your language ?   
    In mexico they do the exact same  and it's irritating as heck. Don't feel bad, we Mexicans are as ''disrespectful'' to the Spanish language as the Spaniards    You'd should see how most people there communicates. I feel so irritated at older men using words like ''guey'' and so on.  I did the other day while eating at a small restaurant.   You should see the way teens communicate, both written and oral form.  Don't forget you guys started ''La Real Academia Española''  
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    Trellum got a reaction from lingualbabe in What's special about your language ?   
    Oh,  you know? Lately I eat menudo once a week at a place nearby   I used to make my own for special occasions so we could all eat, but it's so tedious!  Cow stomach takes so long to cook! Chickpeas are garbanzo beans, I will be making beef soup and I will add chickpeas to it:

    Chickpeas are those round things you see in the picture, they taste much better than they look    We use them in many soups.
     
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    Trellum got a reaction from lushlala in What's your level?   
    Have you tried Memrise?  If not, I really recommend it to you, don't waste your time with Duolingo if you ever go back to french or Italian, it only confuses you more.  With Memrise you can create your own word lists! It's awesome!   I plan to learn a lot words using it (7 weeks away from my test) then I'll start using a paid site, so after one year I might be fluent in dutch (then I iwll be ready for the last exam! yaaay!)   But if you want to continue teaching yourself Italian and french, you can't miss verbix!  It's so useful too    Just get yourself a nice course, I recommend you the Larousse series, their grammar books are very nice, very well put and not too thick, just perfect.   
     

    Oh... she is a nightmare, believe me, lol. But I try to tolerate her the best I can (she and her husband did something awful and never apologized), it's ok, before going to the Netherlands I had read about dutch people being peculiar   I am not the kind of person who believes everything she reads, but let's say I am now a believer,  I learnt this the hard way, I always try not to talk with her much, she turns even a small comment into a debate war  Hehehe, god help me D: !!
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    Trellum reacted to lushlala in I'm against taking too much age in consideration   
    Those are very encouraging words, for sure. I'll look upon you as my very own personal cheerleader LOL Well done on standing up to your condition, and refusing to let it keep you down. It's truly commendable and we could all learn a thing or two from you
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    Trellum got a reaction from lushlala in What's your level?   
    Thank you, I hope you can go back to studying french  soon    Learning English has been the best decision I have ever made, learning a new language can really pen a lot doors, i'm sure for you too.  Just give it a try. It seems this world we are living  in is becoming more and more globalized, so that is good for us people who are into language learning     More opportunities for us! 
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    Trellum got a reaction from lushlala in I'm against taking too much age in consideration   
    Thank you, I think I have the mental agility of an 80 year old on a very bad day, but there are good days in which my mind is almost as fast and sharp as usual.  It might be my neurological issue; I no longer process many emotions the way most people do, but I am not afraid of that test, hehehe.   Thanks again, and best of luck to you too, I hope you pick your french up very soon as well   We all need some mental exercise, and what better way than learning a new language? 
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    Trellum got a reaction from lingualbabe in Is it for fun or is there a reason behind it?   
    Well financially speaking they are not doing so well, just like is the case for most EU countries.  Health care is horrible, and you have to pay around 100 euros a month for it.  Plus  big part of the country is below sea level, so there is always a risk of flooding.  It's scary, because I don't know how to swim and I've always been afraid of dark deep waters   Most of the people I've met are incredibly rude, unstable, and plain nasty.  People over there seem to be really bitter, unhappy and extremely antisocial towards foreigners. They also like to gossip a lot and talk behind your back. They like to meddle a lot. I had heard about Dutch people being plain nasty (generally speaking) but I thought it was an exaggeration. It isn't. Norwegians are much nicer. The only thing I like about that place is that a lot things (food)  are very cheap, even salmon. In my country salmon costs an arm and a leg D: 
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    Trellum got a reaction from lingualbabe in What's special about your language ?   
    Yes   Paella is a Spaniard dish.  Mexican menudo is very similar to the Spaniard ''callos de cadiz'', but we have improved the recipe, because we like to garnish it with chopped onions, dry oregano, lemon juice and a nice piece of bread. The sauce is made with chili, bit garlic, bit onion, etc. But it's not so spicy.  Do you eat your menudo only on special occasions too?  Your menudo sounds delicious   By the way, the corn we use looks like this:

    It's all dried out, you are supposed to cook it in a pot separately, but since I am not so patient I always buy the one that is already done  (canned or in a bag). You could also try adding chickpeas  They are delicious too! 
     
     
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    Trellum got a reaction from lushlala in I'm against taking too much age in consideration   
    I have neurological problem and tend to forget things easily, yet you don't see me losing faith or panic about my exam in just 2 months   I'm 28 year old, far from the teen who learned English all on her own in just 6 months without the help of any kind of book or dictionary...  I'm so far from that teen, yet, I don't feel discouraged!   My memory is bad, but if I keep on working hard to remember the things I have learnt I know I will eventually learn Dutch and pass that test  
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    Trellum got a reaction from humanoid in Is it for fun or is there a reason behind it?   
    So I am guessing you are British?  I must admit I have felt tempted to learn polish, because over  the place where I will be living  there are a lot polish people working there.  So I guess learning some polish could be really useful, since in my future job I might come in contact with a lot of them   But I am not so sure, polish is one of the many languages that has never attracted me.  By the way, how advanced is your polish now?  I ask because I am currently learning a language I don't even like nor I ever planned to learn, but I'm forced to learn it since I am moving to the country where said language is spoken.  
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    Trellum reacted to Tyrell in What's your level?   
    Hmm, I'm not sure if curly hair is really associated with being Indonesian though. But maybe your Indonesian ancestor has curly hair, so that's great!
    My Dutch is.. well, not very good, to be honest. I mean I know some words here and there, and there are probably words that I've been saying that is actually Dutch but I just don't realize it. But if I was to speak to a Dutch person, I'd most likely recognize at least a few words! I can't make a sentence though, I just know what the words mean haha. And even then I probably can't spell them right since the spelling is almost always different.
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    Trellum got a reaction from lingualbabe in What's special about your language ?   
    Yes,  there are so many things we have inherited from the Spaniards over here as well.    Adobo is also eaten here, I had it when I was little, it comes from the spanish verb ''adobar'' that simply means ''to marinate''.  My dad used to prepare ''pollo adobado'', that was my favorite   I love eating adobo, but it's been a while since i don't eat it.  We also like menudo, but I think in Spain they call it ''callos de cadiz'', they prepare it using the meat from the stomach of the cow and chickpeas as the main ingredients, our menudo is similar, but instead of using chickpeas we use corn   It looks like this:

     
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    Trellum got a reaction from Tyrell in Finishing Duolingo   
    I hear ya, I hate their out of context sentences... things like: ''the bear likes beer'' or ''I am a banana''. Dutch is filled with some really crazy sentences, I think whoever made that course thought it would be so funny to include translations like those.   For me it was kinda funny at first, but after a while it gets old and tiring.  What Duolingo needs is a touch to reality and revamp all those courses... give us real examples that makes sense instead of really random sentences that seem to have been constructed by a 6 year old with a very vivid imagination. 
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    Trellum got a reaction from Wanda Kaishin in What do you think of those learning 5 languages at once?   
    His goals are to master all those languages o_O  ALL!  The boy is super motivated, I have never seen someone as motivated as him, but  I'm sure he'd do more if he focused on only 2 or 3 languages at once. He is very smart,  but I really think he is not using all his potential... his English could be better!  He reminds me a bit of myself when I was younger, I wanted to learn as many languages as possible, but I only focused on one or two at the time.  I lacked that kind of motivation (he is so motivated!), but I managed to master English and improve my Spanish orthography greatly.  
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    Trellum got a reaction from Chris_A in What's special about your language ?   
    Yes,  there are so many things we have inherited from the Spaniards over here as well.    Adobo is also eaten here, I had it when I was little, it comes from the spanish verb ''adobar'' that simply means ''to marinate''.  My dad used to prepare ''pollo adobado'', that was my favorite   I love eating adobo, but it's been a while since i don't eat it.  We also like menudo, but I think in Spain they call it ''callos de cadiz'', they prepare it using the meat from the stomach of the cow and chickpeas as the main ingredients, our menudo is similar, but instead of using chickpeas we use corn   It looks like this:

     
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    Trellum got a reaction from multilingo in Learning German is not a want but a must if you are serious about moving there   
    I was told the same about Dutch   Plus learning dutch and taking the inburgering examen is something I need to do before I even think of moving to the Netherlands, I think it's the same for people going to Germany.  I was told by so many people clearing to speak dutch well (mostly Brits) was't necessary at all, but I had to explain to them that when oyu are a tourist it's so easy to get by only using English in the Netherlands, but not when you are settling there for good.  You need to learn to speak the language well in order to find a good job there,  plus isn't safe to assume everyone you will encounter will speak or understand English.  
     
    I've yet to feel comfy speaking dutch to be honest, but I think I will pass the test, it's a A1 one, I just need to study daily   Hopefully nice I am done with that test I will feel more comfortable =D  I really don't feel so joyful studying the language by the well, but the advantage is that I understand some German now too, because dutch and German are so similar! 
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    Trellum got a reaction from Wanda Kaishin in What's your level?   
    Ok guys, let's talk about the languages we know and our levels.  For that we are going to use the level definitions used by the Common European Framework, they are as follows:
     

     
    A thread I read recently made me thing about this, since there are people on this forum who are learning several languages or that they already speak several languages... I thought it'd be interesting to know what level they considered their languages to be at.   I find that super interesting     I was actually think about this today... we rarely talk about levels, but lately this is something that is always on my mind, since i need to have a level of A1 in dutch in order to pass my test. 
    So here it goes:
    Spanish (mother tongue) English C2  - 3 years to master it. Dutch   A1  - So far only 8 months - I slacked a lot though   French A1 - (6 months, but stopped too soon)  
    Your turn guys!  Please feel free to also add how long you have been studying each language! 
     
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    Trellum reacted to lingualbabe in What's special about your language ?   
    Oh I didn't even realise that "ñ" was from the Spanish lol! But yes, it seems to be because we were colonised for about 300 years so we got a lot from their culture into ours. Even the alphabet and some words from their language got into our own. Adobo is also a Spanish food? I didn't know that! You learn something new everyday. Menudo, well I know this one's Spanish because of the singer group.:) Really? Sad to say I haven't met any pure Spanish women, though I've met half-Filipinas and half-Spanish ones.
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    Trellum got a reaction from lingualbabe in What's special about your language ?   
    I had no idea you guys had the ''ñ'' as well, but I guess it makes sense, since you guys were governed by the Spaniards for a while, so it makes sense you guys implemented some Spanish words and even letters like the 'ñ''.  I think it's fascinating   I have heard you people like to eat things like ''adobo'' and ''menudo'' as well    By the way, I've met a lot filipinos in the past, mostly women. 
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    Trellum got a reaction from Gabriela01 in What do you think of those learning 5 languages at once?   
    I have met a lot people who are trying to learn as many languages as possible, all thanks to Speaky and other web sites to find language exchange buddy.  I've met kids as young as 15 years old who already speak 3 languages or more and are interested in learning many more! To be honest I don't see this as something odd at all, because I went through the same thing when I was 16-17 years old. 

    I don't quite understand why I had that fascination with learning as many languages as possible. I guess I saw hoe english had opened so many doors for me, so I thought that by learning more languages more doors would open up for me. 
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    Trellum got a reaction from lushlala in LINGUAHOLIC.COM GETS A NEW FACE SOON   
    I love the new forum software, but I am facing some issues and I am not sure everyone else is since the update.  I might have to send you a message on the topic! 
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