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To be honest, as part arabic local myself, the way we learn arabic has to always be in order : "pronunciation, grammar and writing."  the way i learn arabic is by reading the Qur'an, listening to arabic scholars and arabic songs which are mostly pop. Hahaha... But what I'm frustrated is that, even though we are part local, we still find it hard to deal with grammar after mastering the pronunciation and writing. how do ya'll learn arabic?

Btw, my name is : Nur Atikah Mohammed (نور عاتكة) ... It's very nice to meet you but call me, "Atikah" If I haven't properly introduce. My parents gave me an arabic name which means, "Beautiful Light" and Mohammed is just my family name. So overall -- it means, beautiful light from the descendent of our prophet, "Mohammed." that has always been the concept.

Just sharing knowledge, "my name" in arabic is "منسمك" and to those that thought shukran is thank you which is also right but it's actually "shukurran" though, normally we say, "alhamdulliah shukurran." 

Lets share arabic knowledge here, بارك الله فيكم !  

watch this : here's why we learn Arabic -  

On 12/27/2016 at 2:39 AM, Mereloshn said:

I learned and used my first Arabic word today, shokran which means thank you.  I had lunch at a Moroccan cafe earlier, my favorite restaurant in the neighborhood, and I just asked the waitress, a hijab wearing Muslim woman how to say thank you in Arabic and she told me so I used it twice, once when she brought my order to my table and once when I paid my bill at the counter when I was leaving.  She seemed delighted I bothered to use the word when speaking to her.  It's a good start to my new language journey. 

aww thats cute! yeah, we would love to welcome people learning about Arabic, bless you all! <3 

5 hours ago, Mereloshn said:

So I'm a long time linguaholic who has studied several languages but now I'm in a situation where it might be in my best interest to learn how to speak Arabic.  I'm living in an area now with a considerable Arabic speaking population and Muslim culture here, and now whenever I'm out in the neighborhood I see and hear people speaking Arabic all the time so I think given my new neighborhood, it would be a good idea to learn some conversational Arabic.  My goal is to be able to speak it and understand it when others speak it, but not necessarily to read or write it.  Which dialect should I select as my new target language?  Something specific or just standard Arabic?  I believe my best bet would be to go for Darija (Moroccan Arabic) because I've identified some very strong Moroccan cultural influence in my new town.  I don't know for sure what form of the language I keep hearing when I'm out though, so I'm unsure how to go about starting this new language project of mine.  Again, my goal is to verbally communicate with the Arabic speaking population where I'm now living.  Any advice from others studying Arabic would be welcome as I'm a beginner with no background in the language and I'm unsure how to begin. 

haha wow so cool!!! All the best, I know you can do it. Try learning makhraj by getting book that says "Iqra." It will teach you all the pronunciation and letters. you can go to bayyinah tv or youtube nouman alikhan for arabic lessons, yes from beginners to advance  asalamualaikum broh. do send salam to them.

5 hours ago, Blaveloper said:

So basically, you say "if you don't speak French, just STFU and stick with your own language instead".

All learners of any language start off with bad pronunciation (unless they exclusively learn the written half of the language, then they will never come to pronunciation at all), so you can't expect anyone who just studies a language to magically sound like a native speaker, it's not how language learning works.
In fact, people just need to mirror native speakers to perfect their pronunciation, which always starts off with bad pronunciation.

yup. oh ya that reminds me haha, i used to be like them to. oops. but i wasn't really that proud of it. i mean not too proud you know what i mean xD

If you hear someone trying to speak your language, esp French, the most famous and their accents failed... I don't know why but if in my country or in my opinion, if you try to "speak" French at a country that don't speak French, people will roll eyes at ya or laugh at ya unless you said it correctly which is not like some kind of freak who speaks like they are forcing themselves.  It sounds ugly and "exhilarating." Now, I don't mean to sound obnoxious but what basic French freshman don't know is that Italian language IS the king. I know why but I wouldn't wanna continue just incase it may cause a fuss. Let me tell you my story about my French life...

I know French, not only because I "know" it in High School then not speak it for several years later and only decides to speak it because the word sounds melodically beautiful... I know French, not because I am jealous. 

I know French because I have lived/travelled in Paris before, learnt it in High School then continuously use it whilst trying to master English. Not learning it for fun but really, for academic purposes. I'm so not a freaking newbie to French.

And now, I'm trying to learn Italian through French because their grammar is related. Spanish is related to Italian only because of their pronunciation.  

Some freaking annoying freak goes up to me, continuously says, "Bonjour Ca Va...." "bonjour..." while there are also some that says... "voulez-vouz, vouz vouz...." LIKE... STOP IT! Don't just say French greetings to me then consider fluent. 

I so want a jar to put a $1 to every time I hear someone pronounce French wrongly. Newbies doesn't also know that mastering French pronunciation is freaking tough. The French pronunciation is like learning Arabic pronunciation, its a lifelong language journey.. Nobody can fool me with languages, I mean it. Cause.. I am not allowed to learn the next after I've mastered it and then there's people that want to proudly show off that they are a newbie. Who the freak does that?

On 2016/9/20 at 11:23 PM, x0xLucyMx0x said:

No language is impossible to learn. Some languages are easier to learn and others aren't so easy. So I have a couple of questions for you here.

What do you think is the hardest language for you to learn? What would be the hardest challenge for you?

Do you consider your native language hard to learn? What would be the hardest part about your native tongue?

I think the hardest language to learn for me would be Chinese, Japanese or Arabic. I think the different alphabet and not hearing those languages around everyday would make it too hard for me to learn.

HAHAHAHAHA same for me : Arabic, Chinese and Japanese are flipping tough! All those in Arabic, "Tajweed, Makhraj, Heavy & Light" took me ages.... AGES.... But congratulations to me, I've finally mastered them, time for me to learn Arabic grammar. But writing for those three are easy, its just the grammar I find tough. I don't find my native language hard though just because they are alphabetical. 

Anyways, as a local arabian, my advise to some of you to those that want to learn arabic, you can go to http://www.bayyinah.tv/ and sign up for classes for basic learners asalamualikumwaramatullahiwabarakatuh! 

@Blaveloper haha yes.I am so aware that German is so not romance language, that's why I chickened out and I will learn German in Italy. It was said that Italian speaks German more than Italia and Spanish. Hahaha. I understand the Japanese part. Speaking of Japanese, I thought I want to add Japanese to my list just because my grandpa can speak it. He even offered to teach me but I have no interest. My grandpa have lived in Japan, fought for war and become a Japanese translator before he returned home in SG to become a policeman. Now, he has a great life during his retirement, he gets things free.... Just because of his experiences... Hearing his stories, being with the Japs are actually pretty cool... So I'm like "why should I learn Jap, if I can't even master Chinese yet..." Maybe I will learn Jap after Chinese? On behalf of grandpa... ?

Hey, I'm curious. University in Rome, Italia have accepted me and was told to apply for scholarship so this is the reason why I'm studying "french, spanish and Italia" just to prepare for it. Okay so, my native language is Malay because my race is Malay. My mum is Singaporean and my dad is from Malaysia. In Singapore, all of us have to understand mandarin chinese but only I can understand a few of mandarin chinese.

I could have mastered chinese till now but because my dad's job been migrated to Jakarta, Indonesia, I can speak Bahasa Indonesia very well for 6 years and even aced the Indonesian IGCSE exams. Malay and Bahasa Indonesia are same route tbh which is nothing so when I'm in Indonesia, I was told to have my 4th language & I choose arabic over french because I'm a muslim but my friends pick french so I can understand french to. so as a muslim, all my life I have been studying arabic but can't speak one word. arabic and chinese are the hardest language to master seriously. its no walk in the park. 

so then, when I returned back home to Singapore after completing my high school in jakarta, Indonesia for work experiences to get better entry for uni, I am also in european language sch to continue with my french and then in that language school, I was told to add on Spanish and German. I learned Italia by myself and tbh, learning italia after french is much easier than learning spanish after french. but I kinda canceled out German since no one in Singapore that I knew speaks German so I chickened out. besides, I am still learning arabic whilst french and spanish at school. me studying arabic is at different school of course. 

here's the curiosity part. maybe, i can learn German in Italy when I've mastered French, Spanish and Italia. But I've heard, when I'm in Italy, as an art student, I may have to study Romanian as well since Italia and Romanian is similar to. Then when I'm done with Uni in Rome, I'm hoping to master Arabic by getting a work experience at UAE and after all this shenanigans, when I've returned home I will then.. continue to master Mandarin Chinese because I'm Singaporean. So am I like under Proto-Italic family? Having to be able to speak :

Malay, Indonesian, English, French, Spanish, Italia, German, Romanian, Arabic and Chinese.  

Which PIE family am I? I just need diagnosis hahahaha...