primalclaws1974 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 English and Spanish languages are very closely related. Many of their words are spelled similar and although less, many words also sound very similar when spoken. But why is "J" spoken so differently? Is it because a "J" is a relatively knew addition to the alphabet, added to English after the two languages deviated? I read somewhere it is so knew Shakespeare didn't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wander_n_wonder Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Well, that's how their alphabet sounds like. It should not be compared to English because English has their own alphabet as well. In general, J is really pronounced like an H or sometimes it's even a silent J and you just pronounce the next letter as if it's the first. Spanish in general is less complicated compared to other European languages, but you need to pay attention to those letters which are supposed to be silent letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidney Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Yes, I would have to agree that it's simply the sound of their own alphabet. Even English has their confusing words, like "knead" and "gnaw", so I guess the Spanish language is also the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lushlala Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I find it interesting that some of their words make them sound like they have a lisp. I used to have a couple of Spanish friends who even struggled with some English words because of this, the "lisp" carried over to their English. I think this is the one area I'd struggle with If I were to learn Spanish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elles-belles Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I agree with most of the posters here that it is just the way their alphabet is set up! I don't think they were going off the English language alphabet as much as well hence they have the silent 'J'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosa Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I would have to say that this is so because each language have their different alphabet and with having different alphabet comes different rules. Just as English has letters that are silent and so on is the same with these other languages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillylucy Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 They have a different alphabet than English. Remember that they have an extra letter too with the ñ. Some letters are going to sound different than the way they do in English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 That's a very good question. I also wonder why some letters are "silent" like Wednesday witha silent "d". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesede Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 The both derived from latin, and as you said, the point at which they split is where the differences are. Letters and sounds were added later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosyrain Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 That is an excellent question and one I have often wondered about too. In English we would pronounce Jose and "joe-say" but in Spanish it is "hoesay." The pronunciation alone is enough to confuse people if they did not know about the J making the H sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wander_n_wonder Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Different languages have different rules and syntax and that's just how Spanish is. It's really not good to be comparing between languages as that's makes learning even more complicated. There is no such thing as a more superior language that other languages should pattern from. Yes, English is considered the universal language, but it remains to be that other languages have their own rules that is independent of the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baburra Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I never knew that Spanish was closely related to English. I think it's just the way the language evolved, as with most languages. They have a system in place and whatever new words come will just be adapted into the new system in a way that still sounds most consistent and familiar. Many different languages also interchange certain letters like how L is made into R when translated into Japanese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trellum Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Huh?! The ''H'' in Spanish is silent most of the time, like for example ''Huevo''! I don't see why you think the ''J'' sounds just like the ''H''. I'm talking about Latin American Spanish, maybe the ''H'' sounds different in castillian Spanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrushka Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Wait, English and Spanish are closely related? They're from two completely different language families though right? Romance and Germanic? I mean, English pretty much cannibalized a lot of languages to fill up their roster -- which is probably why English has SO MANY FRICKING RULES that hardly make sense or totally doesn't (contranyms!!) -- but I don't think they're similar at all.As for why J is pronounced as H, I have to agree with the others that it's simply their alphabet. It's like asking, "Why is A pronounced as A?" that kind of thing. Different alphabets are created to indicate the sounds that a language has the capacity to pronounce. It just so happened that with Spanish, they designated J as the H sound and H as an unvoiced alphabet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azer Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 In Arabic language writing of J and H are very similar except of a dot .. Spain was under Morocco for 500 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginie French Truly Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 How to Pronounce the French ” R “ People get stuck on this letter. They either disregard it, often because they feel slightly embarrassed to try, or they over pronounce it because they try too hard. The French R is not the harsh sound that you think. You do not need to sound like you’re clearing your throat and about to spit on the sidewalk. Many years ago one of my students compared it to the English H. I had never thought it yet I instantly agreed with him! Clever student! Let’s have a look with the color red. Do you know how to say red in French? Rouge. Listen to how I say it in the video above, does it sound more like an English H or like a throat cleaner??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginie French Truly Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 It’s done in the back of your mouth, at the beginning of your throat. Make the base of your tongue thicker, so that there isn’t too much space at the entrance of your throat. Another tip to really feel where the R is happening, is to push your tongue against your lower teeth. If you need extra help to definitely place your tongue down at the bottom of your mouth, you can also use a pen to push your tongue down. Ok so: 1- Extra thick base of the tongue 2- Tongue is stuck to the bottom of your mouth and 3- You can use a pen, to begin with, to really get a feel for it I want you to notice how subtle it is and that’s it’s definitely closer to an English H than to the harsh R you may have been practicing so far. Same applies when the R is placed in the middle of a word. Learn French online with Virginie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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