Michelle Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hello everyone,Do you ever come across idiomatic expressions that you find strange? I'm talking about idioms that don't seem to make any sense at first when you hear them, although they may be used by everyone. They may not even be amusing and don't seem to have any real meaning. For example, "It's a piece of cake". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarcon Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 One idiom that would be even more confusing is "that was a cakewalk". I suppose at some point in time there were people who walked for the sake of cake, but it really is a stretch. After a while it becomes recognized more and more and people just accept it, though. I suppose it helps if it just rolls off the tongue, or if its a catchall kind of answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banister Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I commonly come across this idiom "live and let live”. To many it seems strange and confusing as I have always heard most people say that it means to stay alive as long as you can but in real sense the idiom means to do what one wishes and let others do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charahome Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I always wondered about that expression. How do people come up with them and then get others to use it? It is amazing, like "it is cool" ok so that means that is cold, however, the usage is for it is good, it is accepted, it is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillylucy Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I was always confused by the one "cat got your tongue?" What does that even mean? :nerd: Who first came up with that one? Did some mean kitty attack someone's tongue? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linguaholic Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I would argue that a lot of idiomatic expressions that are in use today have a pretty long history. This makes "the etymological study" of idioms really interesting. How people come up with those idioms? That's a really difficult question. Still, I would say that most of the idioms make sense in one way or the other (at least at the time when they were invented but then later on, we might not be able to understand the "connection" of those "concepts" anymore) czarina84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssonicblue Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Oh, cakewalks! Funny story about that one, at least as far as I understand it. Cakewalks in the modern day are 'competitions' at county fairs and the like. The people running the cakewalk buys a bunch of cakes and numbers them. People pay into the pot for a spot in line, and then they walk in a circle for a set amount of time, around a ring of numbers written on the ground. When the music stops or someone shouts 'stop,' everyone stops on the number closest to them, and then the person running the cakewalk gives out cakes to people standing on the matching numbers.So, as I understand it, a cakewalk is just a competition that's exceptionally easy to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eppie Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 "Raining cats and dogs" is the strangest idiomatic expression that I've ever heard of until now. :confused: Though I would really love to find out its origin. If anybody can care to explain how it came to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilat Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 To continue the animal theme: "a dog with two tails". I had no idea what this meant the first time I heard it, then someone told me he was as pleased as a dog with two tails when his son was born. Dog wagging his tail = a happy dog. Dog wagging two tails = an incredibly happy dog!I still think this is an odd expression, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linguaholic Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 To continue the animal theme: "a dog with two tails". I had no idea what this meant the first time I heard it, then someone told me he was as pleased as a dog with two tails when his son was born. Dog wagging his tail = a happy dog. Dog wagging two tails = an incredibly happy dog!I still think this is an odd expression, though!If this is the true "nature" of this idiom, it is indeed very odd...but also quite funny, no? :=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justusforus Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I was watching the captions on an English show and in parenthesis it said "car turns over". I wonder about that phrase since it means the car engine started after turning of the ignition versus a vehicle flipping topsy turvy. Another one I find out is "blue in the face" although I realize it must refer to trying to the point of losing oxygen-hence turning blue. I still find it an odd turn of phrase or at least one I just do not like as it is sounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baburra Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I was terribly confused with the expression "have your cake and eat it too" until I looked it up recently and after that 20 years of mystery just disintegrated which I'd say felt pretty good. Another one that always kind of confused me is the expression "sweating like a pig". I wonder why it became widely used when pigs don't really even sweat at all if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lllllllllllllllllllllllll Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I would argue that a lot of idiomatic expressions that are in use today have a pretty long history. This makes "the etymological study" of idioms really interesting. How people come up with those idioms? That's a really difficult question. Still, I would say that most of the idioms make sense in one way or the other (at least at the time when they were invented but then later on, we might not be able to understand the "connection" of those "concepts" anymore)You have a point there. I guess the same can be said for those internet meme, you know stuff like "rustled my jimmies", "swag" and "cool story bro". A few decades from now the next generation may not know what these terms mean but almost everyone who uses the internet in recent times knows these stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justusforus Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I find that even though circuitous logic sometimes, once you know the history, there is a little basis in fact or observations that lead to the phrase. Some are really hard to see so you really have to "squint" to get it. Others make no sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidney Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I think that almost all idioms can be quite misleading and would look really absurd if pictured literally, like "hit the sack" or "tall order". In my opinion they all sound strange to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartPea85 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I know it's not technically an idiom, but someone recently asked me why we say "Ok" to mean "It's all good." I've heard this expression came from American President Martin Van Buren, who was in an elite club called the Old Kinderhooks. When he would introduce new people from the club around, he'd say, "He's an O.K, he's a good guy" kind of thing. Is there any truth to this story? Because I know speakers of many different languages besides American English now use Ok or Okay now, so it would be interesting how this word has circulated the world since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosa Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I was always confused by the one "cat got your tongue?" What does that even mean? :nerd: Who first came up with that one? Did some mean kitty attack someone's tongue? :confused:The idiom, "cat got your tongue?" has nothing to do with the same. It is usually directed at someone who may have found themselves in a sticky situation and has frozen and won't speak up or refused to give a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PashaR Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Dead Ringer. it means an exact duplicate, something (or usually someone) that looks exactly like another.Here is the ridiculous explanation for this that was circulating in emails several years ago:In the 1500's, when people died, the body was not chemically treated, etc., the way they do it today. The body was just put in a coffin and buried. There was a concern, therefore, that the person could possibly still be alive. So a string was attached the the body's hand, through the coffin, and up to the the surface, where is was attached to a bell. If the "dead" person awoke, he could pull the string and ring the bell and be rescued. He'd be called a "dead ringer." (This ridiculous story has also been used to explain the expression "saved by the bell.")This is, of course, complete balderdash, and offers no explanation as to the actual meaning of the phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raytalks Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I never really thought about the strangeness of some of the idioms. I guess we have taken them for granted over the years, that we haven't really questioned its literal significance. But its safe to say, they all have a relation to what they mean. For instance when you say 'kick the bucket', we all know that no bucket was kicked in the process. But it must have been derived from a particular situation, where a man was hung while he was standing on a bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meerkat Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 My favorite is still "It cost me an arm and a leg". I know what it means (I am a native english speaker) but it is awful... who in the world pays in arms and legs? Did some guy have not enough change to pay a cannibal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trellum Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 For me it would be:Bob’s your uncle - A weird way to say ''there you go!''Hairy at the heel - Someone who is either dangerous or untrustworthy.If you’ll pardon my French - I think everyone knows this one already, I've always wondered why they use ''french'' and not another language? I guess it sounds better?Chew the fat - It basically means to have a chat. A weird idiom if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baburra Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I always found "piece of cake" to be very strange too. I never understood why it was structured that way since it's not even the right term of measure for a cake. It should have been slice, but I am just overthinking it at this point, of course. My pick for one of the strangers would be "raining cats and dogs" though, since even just picturing it already makes me chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElephantsCafe Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 One that always gets me is "Happy as a clam." Are clams really that happy? HOW is a clam even happy? I feel like there's so many things that are happy and yet someone somewhere went with a clam, and I just really want to know why. Other ones that get me are pretty much any idiom for "It was fantastic" i.e. "The bee's knees," "The cat's meow," etc. Don't get me wrong, I love the phrase "the bee's knees" and I actually use it sometimes but how is a bee's knee great? Or a cat's meow? I don't know, so many questions with these idioms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringBreeze Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yes, hahaha, i've come across several expressions that are weird. One is: "running around like a chicken without a head". Another: "he has balls". I mean why do you need balls to have courage? And what is balls? Is it the balls in the scrotum? If yes, doesn't he have a couple anyway since he's a man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takibari Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I never really thought about the strangeness of some of the idioms. I guess we have taken them for granted over the years, that we haven't really questioned its literal significance. But its safe to say, they all have a relation to what they mean. For instance when you say 'kick the bucket', we all know that no bucket was kicked in the process. But it must have been derived from a particular situation, where a man was hung while he was standing on a bucket.Me, too! I have always taken idiom for what they are. As they're used for figurative language, I really have not given it a second glance. It's when they are taken literally that when things get funny. In Korean SAT (KSAT), there is always a question there involving idioms. A specific situation is presented, an idiom is used, then another person is taking the idiom literally. Students are then asked to pick the correct meaning of the idiom and how the other person misunderstood the meaning. As to the 'kick the bucket' idiom, yeah, its meaning can really traced back to a person hanging and ending up dead. When a person is hanged or a person hangs himself, he normally stands on a bucket and then kicks it to tighten the noose around his neck. Naturally, the person eventually ends up dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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