anna3101 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I've come across this sad article in National Geographic: http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2011/03/01/language_diversity_index_tracks_global_loss_of_mother_tongues/ It looks like the number of languages in the world is on a steady decline. I find that incredibly sad. Do you think this trend will stay and there will be even less languages in the future? lushlala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇崎ちゃん Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Quite surprising to see how little (3.5%) of all languages are used by Europeans, while it's such a language-happy continent. But on the other hand it's not as surprising, seeing how Norwegian and Swedish are slowly dying. Even in the Netherlands we keep slowly replacing Dutch words by English ones, but at least those Belgians are here to keep the language alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takibari Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 It's probably bound to happen if everyone's by-word these days seem to be globalization. The bigger languages will generally be what most people will strive to learn. While there is no quantitative data available in our country, it's been noted that a lot of our school kids are having problems with our very own "Filipino" language. Among the student population, especially the primary level students have more difficulty comprehending their Filipino lessons compared to their English lessons. In fact, it is for this reason that quite recently our Department of Education has introduced the Mother Tongue to be included in the curriculum. The Philippines, while many speak English and Filipino, have also diverse languages/dialects spread throughout the archipelago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanda Kaishin Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yes, it's inevitable. The programs to "save" languages, while well meaning, will probably not have much effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillylucy Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I can totally relate to this being a Hopi Indian. My mother tongue is dying out and it has so many dialects that are dying out as well. I do not know how to even begin to keep them alive. I have tried to learn them, but they are hard to find online. They are not on Rosetta Stone that is for sure! Wanda Kaishin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Puddu Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 12 hours ago, anna3101 said: I've come across this sad article in National Geographic: http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2011/03/01/language_diversity_index_tracks_global_loss_of_mother_tongues/ It looks like the number of languages in the world is on a steady decline. I find that incredibly sad. Do you think this trend will stay and there will be even less languages in the future? Good article. It discusses the decline of "mother tongue" languages in small groups of people because many people, since times are changing, are forced to adopt a dominant language (e.g. English). However, I don't think there will be less languages in the future. It took millions of years for humans to develop complex language and diversify into tons of dialects. If ever some languages decline, a new and different one will develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shounenbat Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I find it terribly sad, as languages give us different perspectives of the world. They drive cultural perceptions as much as they are formed by them! Read this article for more on that. That's, to me, why it is sad. As languages die, so do cultures, and so do the various ways of thinking that we've developed. Globalization, while good in many ways, also seems to mean the streamlining of human thought and behavior. anna3101 and 宇崎ちゃん 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anna3101 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 On 9.02.2016, 18:26:37, Shounenbat said: I find it terribly sad, as languages give us different perspectives of the world. They drive cultural perceptions as much as they are formed by them! Read this article for more on that. That's, to me, why it is sad. As languages die, so do cultures, and so do the various ways of thinking that we've developed. Globalization, while good in many ways, also seems to mean the streamlining of human thought and behavior. I can totally relate to that. Each language gives me a slightly different perspective, and sometimes I discover notions that I'd never have come across otherwise. While I know nothing about minority languages that are disappearing, I still find the trend disturbing. I am not against many aspects of globalization, but some are truly alarming. However much I like English, I wouldn't want to live until the day 90% of the world population speaks only that, and nothing else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimseokjin Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 When I tell other Chinese folks that I speak Hainanese and they tell me that they've never heard of it in their lives, it's one thing. But when other Hainanese folks tell me they can barely understand, let alone speak it, it's another. It's a sad fact, but my dialect is dying, and if my native tongue is then others are too. My mother tells me stories about how when she was younger, the school systems would only really use Hainanese back in Hainan. Now, there's a greater push for the use of China's official language, Mandarin, in their education. Even in the Hainan province, you wouldn't hear Hainanese being used in the major tourist districts; it's only ever used in the backwaters and the villages. It might not be practical, however, I am blessed I was raised speaking such an unpopular dialect, even if I am no where near fluent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
111kg Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I can totally understand why and, honestly, with a few exceptions, it's a good thing. Not everyone is intelligent enough to learn certain languages, nor do we HAVE TO learn obscure languages in order to communicate better with people from certain parts of the world. Don't worry, the big languages will never die and this is why we have to focus on learning at least one of them instead of learning God knows what obscure language that we'll never use in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lushlala Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 Wow, what an informative and interesting article! Thanks so much for sharing, @anna3101. While this article is tragic, it's merely confirming my fears which I've had for a while now with regards to my language. It's even scarier for me because it's happening right before my eyes and I see evidence of my language disappearing. More and more people here prefer to speak English over our own language, meaning a lot of them struggle to speak their own language. It's particularly worse among teens and those in their 20's. It certainly doesn't help matters that it' only spoken here, where the population is not even 3 million. Super scary and so very heart breaking!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norjak71 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I don't think so at all, in fact I think it's going to improve. We have a steady influx of people who are coming into our country speaking different languages, and a lot of schools are now teaching bi-lingual classes at a very early age so it is easier for the child to adapt to different languages. I think we will see it picking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 I think that some lesser-used languages will be dying off. It is natural, and has happened even centuries back before we had technology. The more people who are wanting to be 'connected' to the rest of the world and moving into city centers (or in this age, going online to communicate and do business), the more they will want to learn the main languages that are spoken by most. However, that doesn't mean that these languages will be lost forever. In the same sense that Latin is really not spoken anymore, it is still a known language, and is in fact, still taught. For any language that has a written alphabet, there will probably be semblance of still in existence forever, although it may not be at all popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abonnen Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Unfortunately I think that language will die out more and more. I think it is because he world is sharing more and more with each other and finding it easier to communicate is certain languages, this is no necessarily a bad thing but I am worried that cultural will die out with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidney Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I think it's inevitable that some languages will be obsolete, because some are not really being used anyway, so what's the point of making it "alive" so to speak, right? So no doubt that trend is gonna stay and only the active languages being used are the ones that will remain in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcuco Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 This is actually a tragedy, please watch this video to understand why, when a language dies we not only lose the language itself but a paradigm, a way to watch and understand the world that the culture that developed the language had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babelle Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 That is the effect of globalization. I suppose countries with weaker economies will tend to focus on strengthening their citizen's proficiency in learning international languages such as English. In my country, English is taught alongside our native language because we need to be globally competitive in order to sustain our economy. A language need not die if the country's leaders only know how to value their nation's heritage and self-identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇崎ちゃん Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Not really @babelle, my country is one of the most powerful and riches countries of Europe economically and we still focus on English a lot. 90% of the people in the Netherlands are fluent in English, we even use certain words from English in our vocabulary to (optionally) replace the original Dutch words. Like to describe video games, we do say "spelletjes" occasionally, but "games" is far more commonly used. Or "tijdschrift", which is commonly replaced with "magazine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Barry Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Just on the British Isles the number of languages officially classed as severley/critically endangered stands at 6: Cornish, Manx, Guernesiais, Sercquiais, Augeron and Jerriais. Sercquiais and Augeron will probably both be classed as extinct in 10-20 years. The influx of people to the Channel Islands from the British mainland who spoke English crushed those languages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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