Enlivo Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 All my life I thought 和 simply means "and", and there are no grammatical rules about it. I am simply shocked to learn today that 和 only applies to nouns, such as 我的爸爸和妈妈. Apparently saying 他是我的哥哥,和他是我最好的朋友 (He is my brother, and he is my best friend) is wrong. So what would be the right way to say this sentence? I guess something like 他是我的哥哥. 他也是我最好的朋友 (He is my brother. He is also my best friend) ? Is there any alternative to this word? I can't think of any good examples yet, but what if there is a time when we need to combine two sentences together with the word "and"? Or does Chinese never use the word "and" between sentences (Just separate it with a comma or period)? Thanks in advance! mctroi 1 Quote
宇崎ちゃん Posted September 12, 2016 Report Posted September 12, 2016 Quite interesting, considering that 和 in Japanese actually means "peace" or "Japanese". And apparently it looks like it has way more meanings in Chinese. Another Chinese dictionary (http://www.chinese-dictionary.org/) might be easier to understand, but you should copy/paste the character in by yourself because I can't provide a direct link, because hipster code. Quote
Pinutile Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Enlivo, You can use 也 or 而且 or 并且 and some other words as a conjunction between clauses. Thus, He is my brother, and he is my best friend. = 他是我哥哥/弟弟,也是我最好的朋友。 or 他是我哥哥/弟弟,而且是我最好的朋友。 (For some reason, 并且 is not appropriate to be used here.) It seems that you need a textbook on grammar or syntax to facilitate your learning. linguaholic 1 Quote
Enlivo Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Posted September 18, 2016 Thanks Pinutile, I appreciate it. Yup I'm using a textbook for learning now in my course. It's a bit slow though, so we're not going into using words like 而且 or 并且 yet. I was just curious since 和 apparently only works for in between nouns, and I can't seem to find a good alternative on the internet for in between sentences besides 也 . Quote
mctroi Posted November 19, 2017 Report Posted November 19, 2017 Pinutile I may be new to this forum...but are questions similar to this one..not the reason for said forum(s)? ..but i digress, because, i do not believe that i would be able to facilitate an appropriate answer capable of someone such as your self, to understand...not because it is too complex but rather, too simple. Your answer, was however, a very good one, i will certainly give you that!!!! Quote
linguaholic Posted November 19, 2017 Report Posted November 19, 2017 On 9/12/2016 at 3:19 PM, Blaveloper said: Quite interesting, considering that 和 in Japanese actually means "peace" or "Japanese". And apparently it looks like it has way more meanings in Chinese. Another Chinese dictionary (http://www.chinese-dictionary.org/) might be easier to understand, but you should copy/paste the character in by yourself because I can't provide a direct link, because hipster code. Expand 和 actually means Peace in Chinese as well... Quote
Otsukisama Posted April 13, 2018 Report Posted April 13, 2018 On 9/15/2016 at 1:52 PM, Pinutile said: Enlivo, You can use 也 or 而且 or 并且 and some other words as a conjunction between clauses. Thus, He is my brother, and he is my best friend. = 他是我哥哥/弟弟,也是我最好的朋友。 or 他是我哥哥/弟弟,而且是我最好的朋友。 (For some reason, 并且 is not appropriate to be used here.) It seems that you need a textbook on grammar or syntax to facilitate your learning. Expand Why is 并且 not appropriate here exactly? Quote
linguaholic Posted April 13, 2018 Report Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/13/2018 at 9:21 AM, Otsukisama said: Why is 并且 not appropriate here exactly? Expand hey Otsukisama Good question. I will ask my chinese colleague on Monday about that and will let you know what she has to say about it. I am working in Beijing so I am right at the source :=) Best, L Quote
linguaholic Posted April 20, 2018 Report Posted April 20, 2018 On 4/13/2018 at 9:21 AM, Otsukisama said: Why is 并且 not appropriate here exactly? Expand In fact I asked my colleague now and she is certain that 并且 is also acceptable here. But it is even better if you are using it with 也 together: 他是我哥哥,并且也是我最好的朋友 Bingqie alone is generally rather written Chinese and pretty formal, wherease bingqie and ye combined is more close to oral Chinese. Quote
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